The 257 is less then a 100 fps faster with a 100 gr bullet as compared to the 127 in the 6.5-300, comparing the 2 is like comparing the 257 and 25-06. 80-grain bullets for near 4,000 ft/sec zappers for jackrabbits. The bear squared out at 7'5". The parent case design is based off the .375 H&H Magnum by shortening the neck to fit the .257 inch (6.53mm) bullet. 257 Weatherby has more case capacity but will not be quite as friendly as a high volume shooter. Mag. They will all work for deer, antelope and even the occasional elk, so it's just an apples or oranges comparison. We see at least 1 sometimes as many as 5 under 1000yrds at a day over that distance 10 -15. The .257 and .270 Weatherbys are based on shortened .300 H&H Magnum cases, and the 6.5-300 is based on the full-sized .300 Weatherby Magnum. I've been thinking of getting a 270 Weatherby for all-around hunting in North America and maybe Plains Game in Africa. He likes the idea that he can use his inventory of bullets for his new .257 … As such, it dwarfs its siblings. sirgilligan, Dec 2, 2012 #7. Fast-forward to the present day, and you’ll find me at that same range on that same bench. The .257 lets you shoot heavier bullets faster, although at a higher price if you buy factory cartridges instead of hand loading. I purchased the Vanguard Lazerguard in .257 Weatherby because it was just too good looking to pass by.The figure on the stock is amazing and I like the laser carved oak leaf motif. Joined: Dec 22, 2002 Messages: 46,823 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville,GA. and a 270 Weatherby Magnum both with 24" barrels? Need Help Filtering . The brass for the WSM will be cheaper than the Weatherby and more plentiful. This video is about Balistic Shock Wave 270 WSM with 130 grn. The middle would be 6.5 SAUM 6.5 wby 6.5 WSM The 26 nosler is a 257wby on juice. The .30 Super Belted Rimless H&H served as the direct parent cartridge for the case design, and served as the forerunner to the standard length magnum cartridges such as the 7mm Remington Magnum and the .338 Winchester Magnum. The .257 Weatherby is certainly not overpowered and has relatively mild recoil for a magnum cartridge. Good luck and let us know what you choose. The cartridge is short enough to function in standard-length long actions with a brass length of 2.549" or 64.74mm and an overall length of about 3.295". The ballistic performance based off four grain types for velocity is 3,825 ft/s (87 gr), 3,602 ft/s (100 gr), 3,400 ft/s (117 gr) and 3,305 ft/s (120 gr). COMPARE RESET. retail for $43 per 20 rounds, though I’ve seen them on midwayusa.com for $38. Greater propellant capacity equals more speed, thus the 6.5-300's 127-grain Barnes LRX (.485 BC) bullet screams from the muzzle at over 3,500 fps. My friend shoots a 25-06 now. Believe me, that bullet will equal the performance of any 160 or 175gn 7mm bullet I've ever tried. Capable of driving an 80-grain bullet at 3,900 fps and a 100-grain bullet upwards of 3,600 fps, the Weatherby far outpaced the .257 Roberts, its main quarter-bore competition at the time. I've loaded the '06 with 00 Buck as a squirrel load, with 5 grains of pistol powder. was looking to buy a weatherby in either the 257 or 270 cal. Mag. 2.5 in (64 mm). [Re: Cruiser1] #7540128 03/12/13: Joined: Mar 2006. 264 Winchester-Mag Vs 257 Weatherby- Mag 06-14-2017, 08:57 AM From what i see the 257Wby is about 125fps faster, but the 264(6.5) Win had a greater choice of bullet weights. The .257 Weatherby Magnum shares the same cartridge case as both the .270 and 7mm Weatherby Magnums. Mag.) Both are great cartridges, I own both, can't imagine not having either one. Re: 257 vs 270 wby? The 6.5 PRC is pretty much a rebirth of the 6.5x284 which also another great cartridge. 11 reviews for Vanguard® Lazerguard™ Rated 5 out of 5. of a load for elk and moose in the .270 Weatherby would be Barnes 150gn MRX BT over a stiff charge of AR2213SC. Like other standard length magnum cartridges, it is designed to work in .30-06 length actions. Tim – June 29, 2016. AckleymanII. Also the 25 SST wildcat cartridge and the whole PRC shooting popularity. It is one of the original standard length magnums developed by shortening the .375 H&H Magnum case to approx. The Weatherby is best utilized on light to mid weight game weighing bet 20kg (44lb) and 150kg (330lb) as Roy Weatherby intended. Con's: Slightly more recoil, long action, expensive ammo . But we are not going below .270 cal. The .257 Weatherby is a very fine long range rifle, however In gusty conditions, as with any rifle I would be very cautious making a shot over 200yds unless you are dead down wind. I have read that the .257 Wby recoil is similar to the .270 Winchester. The .270 Weatherby Magnum was the first belted magnum based on the .300 H&H Magnum to be developed by Roy Weatherby in 1943. There has been some speculation that Roy Weatherby … If you rebarrel, doing the 1 in 8" twist to shoot the Blackjack's would put it ahead in trajectory and energy dump. and .300 Wby. At that point the animal has already smelled you. Art Eatman Moderator Emeritus. The .257 Weatherby Magnum cartridge is amazing in itself, and the rifles being produced in this chambering continue to amaze me with their accuracy when using factory ammo. The .257 Wby. Left to right, .257, .270, .7mm and .300 Weatherby Magnums. Used 100 gr TTSX handloads to take this bear with Jeff Downing and truenorthoutfitters.net near Steen River, Alberta. Barrel length is 26” for magnum chamberings & 24” for non-magnum and 240 Wby Mag . I have 2-257 Weatherby's and a ULW 6.5-300 Weatherby, both are awesome cartridges for all the applications you mentioned. Violate this principle by, for example, chambering a lightweight, short action rifle for a powerful Magnum cartridge like the .300 WSM and the result will be a dramatic increase in kick. Mag., .257 Wby. Neither caliber have as much of a bullet selection as the 7mm or .30 cal, but Berger and Nosler (AccuBond) make good bullets for both the .257 and .277. Just because it is a big magnum doesn't mean it hits harder. Not saying it's the best cal for bears but a .270 in a mag will help out in this situation more so than a 6.5 x284 6.5 Gibbs or 257 Weatherby. Mag., 270 Wby. I added a Mark V in .270 Wby Mag this year; sure like the idea of being able to hold dead on past 300yds with a 130G projectile. If my 257 wby barrel ever eats it, I'll turn it into a 6.5 wby just due to all the 257wby brass I already have and the fact I also have a 6.5 creedmoor. In fact, there is very little difference in capacity between the .257, .270 and 7mm Weatherby cases and the .264 Winchester and 7mm Remington Magnum cases. Mark V® Magnum: Mark V® Standard: Vanguard® Locking Lugs: 9 Lugs: 6 Lugs: 2 Lugs: Bolt Lift: 54 Degrees: 54 Degrees: 90 Degrees: Bolt Release: Pull Trigger: Pull Trigger: Side Release: Magazine Capacity: 2+1 in .378 & up; 3+1 in .257 through .375 H&H: 3+1; 4+1 in Select Cartridges It has the characteristic double-radius shoulders and is necked down to accommodate the .277 in bullets. The Weatherby Vanguard is one heck of a rifle for the money and chambered for the .257 Weatherby Magnum only makes it better. Send Private Message. A friend has the hots for a .257 Wby mag Vanguard for mule deer and antelope hunting, but wonders about the recoil. 180kg (400lb) is a safe upper limit. The .257 Weatherby is a standard length magnum based on a shortened and blown out .300 H&H case, as are the .264 Winchester Magnum and .270 Weatherby Magnum. Pro's: Shoots a bit faster. Work up from 64gn toward 67gn which gives 3105 fps. I would like to have a .257 Weatherby Magnum just because it is what it is. Link to post Share on other … Members Profile. Arizona. In my opinion, one of the drawbacks of all three of the .270s is their twist rate. Gold $$ Contributor. 1; 2; 3 > » (0) Weatherby MARS65CMR4O Mark V Accumark RC Bolt 6.5 CRD 24 4+1 St $ 1,635.00 (0) WBY VANGUARD 300WBY 26 RANGE CERT Green Black MATTE $ 875.00 (0) WBY VANGUARD DLX 300WBY 26 AA WALNUT GLOSS BLUE $ 941.00 (1) WBY VANGUARD 257WBY 26 WILDERNESS Black Gray WEB $ 750.00 (0) Weatherby … At 3320 FPS out of the mussel and 257 Weatherby with 100 grn. Personally I'd roll 6.5 SAUM or 26 Nolser. In fact, the loads (available in .240 Wby. Like the .270 Weatherby Magnum—released 60 years prior to the .270 WSM—it betters the velocity of the .270 Winchester, but I’m not certain that the increased velocity is necessarily required. The .257 Weatherby Magnum is a .257 caliber (6.35 mm) belted bottlenecked cartridge. Re: 25-06 vs 257 Weatherby Mag depending on the impact velocity it may have "hit harder than a 338" there are many variables that need to act simultaneously. .270 Weatherby Mag. bullets. cartridges, the 6.5-300 uses the full-length (2.825 inches) .300 Wby. Gunpowder Charge Weight Velocity m/s Velocity fps; Norma MRP: Max 75.1 Min 71.0: 1146 1018: 3760 3340 One thing about the WBY, is the ammo is so darn expensive, unless you can find some empty brass and you reload. Just because it can be done does not mean it makes sense, despite what you might read in advertising copy. The .257 Weatherby Magnum was designed by Roy Weatherby in 1944 and was first introduced into the market during 1948. Recoil of a rifle in .257 Weatherby Magnum is about the same as that of a rifle of the same weight in .270 Winchester. case, making the 6.5-300 0.276 inch longer than either the .257 or .270. Find Members Posts. on some of the larger game hunts and I'd load 150 or 160 gr. This would complement my 300 Win mag. What's the real-world difference between a 270 win. The .257 Wby towers over all of the other .25 calibre cartridges factory and wildcat and uses larger powder charges to outperform them all by a wide margin. Haha. flyspy1 . More specifically, when a 100-grain bullet exits the barrel of a nine-pound rifle in .257 Weatherby at 3500 fps, one’s shoulder is caressed with 13.5 ft-lbs of recoil. The 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum is flanked by the .257 Weatherby Magnum (left) and the .270 Weatherby Magnum (right). "Weatherby Vanguard 270" For Sale. Taking a closer look at the cartridge, we see that unlike the .257 and .270 Weatherby Mag. So basically it all boils down to whether you want a long action or a short action rifle, and if you are willing to pay a bit more for ammo from Weatherby. It would also be my primary for some of my longer range … The .257 caliber is the new cool thing. I would say that the 270 WBY as with the other medium bore Weatherby's (257, 270 and 7mm) built on the same case are great long range shooters and if used at closer range, then a stouter bullet should be used to avoid fragmentation of the bullet. At 3480 FPS. Posts: 9,159. Last edited by Cruiser1; 03/12/13. The Weatherby is ahead of the Remington by about 12 percent in velocity, in energy about 25 percent. In the right setup (trued action, 26-28" barrel, right load) the WSM will perform very similar to the 7mmRM. This one went down to a 130g spitzer at 200, went 30 yds before he realized he was dead. firstcoueswas80. Typically, all three are provided with a 1:10″ twist rate, which limits the bullet weight to 150 grains. 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